The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #96942   Message #1902562
Posted By: GUEST,Gza
07-Dec-06 - 12:54 PM
Thread Name: BS: The right to attack - what gall!
Subject: RE: BS: The right to attack - what gall!
"Iran funds terrorism"?? Well, it depends on your viewpoint, doesn't it? They don't think it's terrorism, but you do. From their point of view the biggest terrorists out there are the USA and Israel, who have killed far more people and funded far more effective death-dealing than the Iranians have.

It's a regional conflict. Everyone funds the people who are fighting their enemies in that conflict, including Iran. Everyone ends up killing innocent civilians, including Israel and the USA, but Israel and the USA do it much more effectively, because they have greater firepower.

Everyone in this conflict ends up funding terrorism...only against whom...that is the question?

If you don't think it's terrorism, then you obviously haven't been at the receiving end and seen YOUR country wrecked by these wars of aggression.

Regarding Afghanistan: yes, I am aware that the U.N. sanctioned that invasion, making it technically legal at the time. However, I consider the U.N. to have been hoodwinked and easily manipulated in the wake of 911 when there was a tremendous wave of sympathy for the United States and outrage against Al Queda, and I consider the invasion of Afghanistan to have been another case of unprovoked and illegal aggression against a sovereign country which did NOT commit the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and which was not involved in planning those attacks either.

The 911 attacks were not the action of a sovereign country at all. They were the action of a clandestine terrorist group, based in a number of different countries, Saudi Arabia probably being foremost among those. As such, they were not actions which should have been responded to with a war at all...they should have been responded to with international police action to track down and arrest or destroy the individuals of the organization(s) responsible. To launch a war against the nation of Afghanistan was completely beside the point.   Al Queda is not Afghanistan. Al Queda is a secret organization which acts in hiding, and from many different places. You don't fight a secret organization by invading a sovereign country, because that organization will simply relocate elsewhere and the country you invaded will then be a fertile ground for Al Queda to continue recruiting angry people who hate you for a very long time to come.

Besides, the invasion of Afghanistan was being planned by the US administration some time BEFORE 911 ever happened! Why? Because of a desired USA-controlled route for oil pipelines to go from the Caspian region to the Indian Ocean through Afghanistan...which route the Taliban had not agreed to. They were told by the USA in the summer of 2001, before 911, that they were being offered 2 choices: "A carpet of gold" (if they agreed), "A carpet of bombs" (if they did not). They said "no". Well, they got their carpet of bombs. The American public was not informed about that little bit of diplomacy at the time, but it happened. It's on record. The war against Afghanistan was inevitable from the moment the Taliban refused to cooperate with American oil interests...but a very powerful excuse was needed to go ahead WITH it.

911 was that excuse.

Now one can only wonder to what extent the interests of Al Queda and of the USA coincided at that moment, and one might wonder too just who Osama Bin Laden was really working for?