Focus gentle people, FOCUS! There are enough differing directions for a dozen other threads. Peace, I'd love to discuss the Jesus you present and the Jesus I know. How about " ...a strong man armed keepeth his palace." and "I came not to bring peace but a sword." and "If any man come to me and hate not his father, and mother, and wife and children, and brethern, and sisters, yea his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Stuff for a separate thread. Dianavan, how do you feel about the Mexican invasion of the US's southern border? Do we have the right to defend our country? Will Rogers liked to say that "the right to swing your fist ends just short of my nose"   but our laws regarding assault say that if you cock back your fist while facing me, you've already committed the crime of assualt. If you have a neighbor who makes credible threats against you and gives evidence that he has the means to carry out those threats, the authorities have the right to enter his premises, disarm and arrest him. I repeat: The US has the right, the duty, the obligation to protect it's citizens from belligerent nations which make credible threats against us. In fact, ALL civilized nations all have that same burden, to stand against outlaw nations and nations that create safe harbor for active enemies of peaceful nations. I would contend that it is YOU who does not either know what peace is or, knowing, does not want peace. If Iran espoused a "live and let live" policy toward Israel and the US, sought friendly relations, the nuclear powers would help her with her real energy needs and while they might try to discourage her from nuclear energy (especially in light of her abundant oil reserves) they would have helped her in her peaceful goals. But you and I know that's not what is going on here. The threats have been made, jihad declared. Hated Israel must go. What is YOUR agenda? What do you really want? I submit that it is your own hatred of law and order that leads you to your political and social opinions. I could be wrong on that last point but I'm interested in what really motivates you.