No-one said you donlt undertsand traditions Drummer - only that your mind was closed. You are displaying an alarmin cynicism about the music you say you love.

Of course these people are not remotely interested in what's going on in clubs. At the moment. It is up to us to change that. We have every right to try, and try dammned hard.

Um, "All that's needed for evil to flourish is for good men to remain silent." (help me Countess - what's the quote)?