Keith, sometimes I have to shake my head when I read some of your comments. I started this thread because I thought that it was interesting that the Government would admit to anything and I thought it would of interest to people here. I did not start it to troll as Mr. Mackenzie has stated above. Comparing civilian crimes with those perpatrated by civil servants is ludicrous and an extremely weak way in which to score points. Should we compare the crime figures in England to those provided for N. Ireland. What would that prove? Everyone who has defended the army miscreants in this thread seem to completely ignore the fact that the Ministry of Defense has acknowledged the fact that soldiers robbed, raped and murdered. Does this not shock anyone or is it because the ones being robbed, raped and murdered were just a bunch of Paddys. I think that it is important for the government to come clean. It is time for truth and reconciliation from all corners for without it there is no foundation from which to build the future.