I am not arguing that I think capital punishment is civilized. Nor is Guantanamo Detention Center a capital punishment site, Peter. It is an abomination, we have no disagreement on that. I would suggest that we will see an end to this as our political system pulls one of its evolutionary corrections over these next 2 years. But both of these are simply attempts on your part to lump a bunch of different arguments under on banner, which is to attack anything you can about the USA. But I would point out something to you. Even in those States where capital punishment still exists, there is a lengthy process, open, and judicially guided that governs its use. This is why it takes so long to execute someone. Texas, in my opinion, is the most barbaric State in its use.

While the UK doesn't officially sanction the death penalty, the studies, reports, and commissions are shedding more and more light on how they have been complicit in the murders of any number of Irish Catholics in the North of Ireland. Your government apparently feels that murder by the State is better left in dark corners, using security services, and intelligence services, and allowing surrogates to carry out the penalty. I think I prefer to fight the battle in the open. The recent DNA activists have dealt a number of body blows to the capital punishment supporters. I hope they are successful in destroying the legitimacy of the death penalty. That is one death I would like to see.

Before you go off on a tangent, I am not anti UK. What I am is against folks like you using any excuse to attack the US. Had you left this conversation on the topic of the death penalty, it would have been fine. But you started it as a pretext to just attack the uncivilized USA.

Mick

Mick