The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #97110   Message #1915269
Posted By: McGrath of Harlow
20-Dec-06 - 08:27 PM
Thread Name: Debating with deniers
Subject: RE: Debating with deniers
I looked up Yezidis, and there's an interesting account of them in Wikipedia. Interesting lot. They aren't Christians - they sound more like an Islamified version of Mithraism than anything, with a distinctly different spin on some things:

"Then God gave life to Adam from his own breath and instructed all archangels to bow to Adam. All archangels obeyed except Melek Ta'us. As God inquired, Malak Ta'us replied, "How can I submit to another being! I am from your illumination while Adam is made of dust." Then God praised him and made him the leader of all angels and his deputy on the Earth.
.......................
I take your point about both being right, if they are looking from different points of view.

If I say New York is in the direction where the Sun sets, and someone else on the Mudcat, in San Francisco says, no it's in the direction where the Sun rises we'd both be right. But we'd also both be wrong in thinking the other person was wrong.

In the context of the topic the thread the analogy with that is the way that you have two sets of people who see each other as the source of terrible events in the Holy Land - and are all too often unable to recognise the true source of the events in a third set of people, outside the Middle East.

The Palestinians identify the Israelis (and their backers) as the ultimate cause of their suffering, and the Jewish Israelis identify the Palestinians (and their backers) as the cause of the continuing agony. And both should recognise the true cause as the persecution of Jews in Europe over the ages, culminating in the Holocaust.