"The point about quoting the deaths from September 11 is that this war was imposed on Iraq and on the USA on the grounds that Iraq had something to do with what happened then. (At least in the UK Bl;air never pretended that particular lie was the case - he just went along with the fibs about Weapons of Mass Destruction that the "Intelligence" Services has been ordered to flesh out.)"
Absolute crap, sorry but that is absolute crap. Let's take this ullage bit by bit and expose it for what it is:
"The point about quoting the deaths from September 11 is that this war was imposed on Iraq and on the USA on the grounds that Iraq had something to do with what happened then."
Sorry Kevin, within days of the attacks of 911, Colin Powell was first on record as part of the current US Administration stating categorically on the steps of the UN that Iraq had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the attacks of 11th September 2001. That is a simple matter of record, if you chose to believe lies, all well and good, but please do not present them on this forum as fact.
(At least in the UK Bl;air never pretended that particular lie was the case - he just went along with the fibs about Weapons of Mass Destruction that the "Intelligence" Services has been ordered to flesh out.)
OK Kevin, we have had three Inquiries that have all concluded that no intelligence information was fleshed out, no lies were told, all information relating to Iraqi WMD came from the UN, from the UNSCOM Inspectors Report of January 1999. If you dispute this then please provide details. According to your take on things if anybody told fibs it was the UN nobody else. The exact wording of the Dossier as presented to Parliament is freely available, it bears out exactly what I have said above.
McGrath of Harlow - 27 Dec 06 - 09:13 PM
"The only people with any hope of cutting down on the sectarian violence are going to be the neighbouring countries, especially Iran and Syria.
That would realistically have to mean inviting them to move in troops, to replace the Americans and the British as they are withdrawn.
An apology to the people of Iraq might make the process easier."
You are joking of course Kevin? Please expound upon the beneficial effect of Nazi Ba athist Syrian intervention in Lebanon, correct me if I am wrong Kevin but they occupied the country for 27 years and produced nothing but strife. I know that you are inordinately fond of the rule in Iran of the 12 Old Gits, but I somehow think that under no circumstances on earth that you, yourself would be prepared to live under their rule. OK for others though, my little left wing socialist. Typical, do as I say, not as I do.
In actual fact Kevin, "The only people with any hope of cutting down on the sectarian violence are" The prats who are actually carrying out the killings now, they have to be discouraged, Kevin. They have to be shown the error of their ways. It has got absolutely nothing to do with Syria and Iran, they can only add fuel to the flames.
Little Hawk - 26 Dec 06 - 08:12 PM
"Iraq was not responsible for 911. Therefore, to kill even 1 American by invading Iraq doesn't make any sense to me."
Well done Little Hawk, the first sentence is spot on. Why then do you connect the invasion of Iraq to 911. It had nothing to do with 911. It had everything to do with what the Senate and House of Representaives Security Committee identified as being the greatest external threat to the USA. Please note this had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with GWB or his administration. The Joint Security Committee reached this conclusion entirely on their own. Again a simple matter of record, check it out, might not fall in with a lot of fondly held myths that exist on this forum, but what the hell.