Slag--

As been said (accurately) also of Teribus, you are also "slovenly about facts". What the Pilgrims established was much closer to a theocracy than a democracy. Otherwise it would not have been necessary for Roger Williams and other dissidents to leave. Also see the reception given Quakers in New England.

And you can can the "lighten up"--which is somehow always suggested when you are caught in yet another stupid incendiary statement. Wonder why that happens.

It so happens that a lot of folkies are enthusiastic, if amateur, historians--and will call you on any blatant misstatement--as for instance your opening remark on Mr. Carter.

You'd best learn to get your facts straight--before you post. It would be a refreshing change.

Though some Mudcatters seem to like to deny any Christian influence on the early history of the American colonies, I am not one.   Obviously there was a lot.

But to describe what the Pilgrims established as a democracy is an absurd oversimplification. As Greg points out, that came much later.