Woa there, man. Don't know what thread you're on about or when it was deleted, why and by whom. What "computer people" are you referring to, that "are all the same"? Remember, some of us have that as a profession - though not on Mudcat, here we wear our music hats. And we all know how to swear too, but we usually avoid it. So pipe down and state your case normally, if you want anyone's sympathy.