A point that is being missed here is that we were not asked if we agree with Max's request that the Shambles leave, so any differing views anyone may have are irrelevant. This is not a democracy.

I would guess that if some (enough?) people PMed Max pleading for Roger's reinstatement it might make a difference. There is no reason to believe that ddressing the question on this forum will.

My view is that the owner and administrative arms of this site have been extraordinarily patient. Roger on occasion has a valid point but he spends his energy pounding all and sundry into sand, seemingly making no distinction between validity and absurdity.