>>20,000--just enough to piss the Iraqis off a little more but not enough to actually help the troops that are already there. Way to half-ass it.<<

That's all we have. We've used up our last contingent of combat-ready troops. This is it. This time is HAS to work. This is Bush's last chance to finally do something right.

>>Hey 282RA, I know that you would absolutely love to see the armed forces of the USA whupped like you were in Vietnam. But unlike you these guys are professionals, they actuially take a pride in what they do. They were not force drafted there, they volunteered. You know what they they say - A volunteer is worth ten pressed men.<<

Don't praise em too much. I was also a volunteer who went to the Middle East. And no I don't take pride in getting my ass shot up trying to bail out an egomaniac's insane scheme for free oil.

>>Unlike you guys in Vietnam, the forces you now have operating in Iraq and Afghanistan have got an excellent chance in winning the conflicts that they are engaged in. The only people that can lose it for them is you and the likes of you.<<

If they had a chance of winning, they'd have won by now. No, there's no chance of winning. And pub shills like you can't blame the democrats or the liberals or the leftists or the media. You had a republican president, a republican congress and a republican Pentagon. From March 2003 to November 2006, they had a chance to win this thing and even declared MISSION ASCCOMPLISHED (remember that?). And all they've done is botch it. And they cannot blame anyone but themselves. There was nobody standing in their way, nobody to stop them, nobody to conduct any oversight. And even so, they couldn't win. And if something doesn't change drastically in the next 6 months, this new Congress (both dems and pubs) will yank the plug. And it's going to be too bad for your buddy.

>>Don't worry old son,<<

Oh, but I am worried. I'm very worried. This is our last gasp. The American occupation of Iraq has now officially entered its last throes. You're damn right I'm worried.

>>just because you and your country couldn't cut the mustard back in the 1960's and early 1970's doesn't mean that the same fate must befall your "professional" armed forces in the twenty-first century.<<

And you think we'd learn just how incompetent we really are to fight wars AND we were in much better shape then and still lost. We think we're SO bad and we just look stupid. So what do you think is going to happen now? I know asking you to think is a big demand but try it just this once and you'll see what I'm saying.

>>After all 282AR undermine them and what do you have left to defend you - Let's face face it neither you, nor anyone else on this forum are going to defend anything - True?<<

The only left to defend is the Constitution and it must be defended from the likes of George W. Bush. That is pretty much all we have left. He's pissed away everything else. He trashed our economy and squandered our surpllus. We're in hock to Red China!!!!! RED CHINA!!! I'm scared. I'm not gloating at Bush's failure--shit I saw that coming the day afer we invaded--I'm just plain scared. It scares me the same way global warming does. It's too late to turn back the clock and we can do nothing at all about what is coming. And there's nowhere to run.