ROTFLMAO at the songs and stories...(means 'rolling on the floor laughing my ass off' for those of you who don't deal in online shorthand..)I am sitting here feeling guilty, because, even with a pretty bare bones machine...(Windows 3.1, upgraded 386), I have never had a problem getting into the Java chat...had a very nice chat with Jen the other day....I have no idea what I did right or avoided doing wrong. I AM using Netscape 4, which I HEARTILY recommend for many reasons. (Internet Explorer feels like driving a Hyundai after being used to a BMW) but I doubt it is as simple as that. This is a pretty complex thing Max is doing, and I am sure glad I don't have understand the details!! I just try to follow directions,close my eyes, press the buttons and hope...