Nope, I don't think I'd get much of an argument by saying that Easy Rider and others are spot on with the "no rules" concept. Naturally different approaches are going to work slower or faster, depending on the dexterity, time available, and mindset of the learner. Everyone who teaches (or has played for a number of years) has "theories" however. Hmmmm, might be a good thread...even tho it's been done before.Rick