The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #97101   Message #1945241
Posted By: Scrump
23-Jan-07 - 05:41 AM
Thread Name: BBC Folk Awards- Open and clear
Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards- Open and clear
Having listened to it again, I wonder if it was a mistake to try to address the two issues in the same complaint:

1. The nomination of Seth L's song for best trad track
2. The transparency of the voting

The programme only devoted about 5 minutes to the whole item, and most of it was spent trying to persuade Leonard to disclose the number of votes. What he has ended up doing is simply to promise to disclose the number of votes for the 4 nominations in each category. So we won't know about any of the other items on the short lists, or the names of voters, etc. I doubt we'll be able to learn much from that. It would have been more interesting to know how many votes the 5th nomination in the trad track category got. JL's 'justification' for not publishing all the votes (numbers only, no names) was hardly convincing.

The issue of a non-traditional song being nominated for a trad song award is to me more important than knowing how many votes were cast. Leonard was allowed to get away with an unconvincing justification for White Hare being included, while the presenter focused on the other issue.

I'm not criticising Dave for raising it - he did a good job getting it discussed on air. But maybe out emails to the BBC should focus on the White Hare issue - what do others think?

Another point: Leonard claims Seth L "heard the tune in a pub as a lad". How does he know it wasn't under copyright? Maybe I could claim I wrote it and it was me he heard - but I doubt I'd get away with it :-)