Stevie D: I misunderstood. My apologies to you and thanks for the explanation.

Fact is, I find nothing at all to like, admire or think highly of with people like Hitler. Too many times I have heard the ill-informed say things like, "He did some bad things BUT he got the economy going." He was a mass murderer, period. I did not yesterday, do not today nor will I tomorrow find anything about him worthwhile. Fatuous stuff like, "But how could a vegetarian DO something like that?" really gets my crank turned. He was shit as an artist, shit as a human and shit as a leader. The staging of his speeches was dramatic and planned. But not by him. He was just another small time piece of crap who decided to try and exterminate a whole people. Some folks here find it unreasonable that people like me can't sit and calmly discuss him. Let me ask this of those posters: How is it that you folks can?

I have lost two friends because of this thread, not that that will have any importance to anyone but me. However, I would gladly lose every friend I have before engaging in any discussion that begins with the premise that Hitler was human. He was trash. Period. And I will never see it any other way.