The reason could well be dianavan that having heard, or read, and understood what was actually said, we have reached the same conclusion. As opposed to others like yourself, Arne and Ron, who rely on second-hand reports of what was said and on others opinions on what has been said. Your bias and hatred of the current President and his Administration ensures that any objectivity that you may have possessed has gone out the window and that you are fully prepared to believe any idiotic theory that casts the current President and his Administration in a bad light.

Ron, clear unequivocal statements relating to the fact that there was no connection between the attacks of 11th September, 2001 and Saddam Hussein/Iraq Government were broadcast in the USA on MSM during the period you stipulate. Now once again I ask give me ONE, just one instance where either the President, or any member of his Administration state that there was a connection in the period 11th September, 2001 to present day.

Now a reality check for both of you, all of which is a matter of record that you both individually really should check for yourselves and come to terms with:

- Iraq was identified as posing a potential threat to the United States of America in 1998, by the Clinton Administration and their security advisors, it was not dreamt up by GWB post-911.

- Neither GWB, Blair, or any members of eithers government invented information with regard to Iraq's WMD, or WMD programmes. All that information, universally accepted and believed at the time, came from the United Nations.

- The UN backed operations against Al-Qaeda and the Taleban in Afghanistan were a direct result of attacks made by Al-Qaeda on the United States of America in 2001.

- The US led invasion of Iraq in 2003 has and never has had anything to do with 911, or Osama Bin Laden. Direct intervention in Iraq was centred around the removal of what had been seen by the Joint House Security Committee, and the Intelligence Agencies of the United States of America, as the greatest potential threat to the country.

- Saddam Hussein and the Ba'athist regime in power in Iraq were given every opportunity to put matters to rights. They mistakenly believed that the international stance adopted by its major trading partners (France, Russia, China and Germany) would deter the US, they thought that they could brazen it out - They were badly mistaken.