It looks like I will probably be going. However, as I did at Camp Alexandra last year, I will just avoid the main room with the blue books and the flourescent lights (not sure RC is flourescent but they are awfully awful and bright at night). I will be nice until 10 p.m. or so and then I shall retire to another building with like-minded souls who do not like to take turns (I do not care personally about ever having a turn), who do not like the singing from books experience (OK to bring your own)and no instruments except guitars (saves a lot of trouble in the long run).   In the past we have been able to stay up late enough to have a nice time after the books have gone to bed but I am getting older and can't count on enough late night hours to make it worth the travel time frankly. I have told people about the lights for years and they won't do anything about them, and I have told them about the too long concerts on Sat night for years and they will keep them so if and when I attend these camps, which I do mostly for the late night singing, I will be setting up my own little free for alls, which I have done, but later after concerts etc. This time it will be during concerts and main song circles etc. Life is too short to sit through four hours of rise up screaming under interrogation lights on hard aint it hard camp chairs. mg