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Thread #47889 Message #1949967
Posted By: Q (Frank Staplin)
27-Jan-07 - 06:10 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Fiddler's Green (John Conolly)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Fiddler's Green
The quotation from Neale (1833) is interesting; it may be the first connecting "Fiddler's Green" and sailors. Not in OED or Lighter. The Maxwell quotaton (1835-6?), which I cited above, remarks tailors and musicians.
In "Snarleyyow, or Dog Fiend" by Marryat, Jemmy sings a derogatory song about a Port Admiral and is accused of mutiny (ch. 12).
In 1834, Marryat and Neale came to blows in Trafalgar Square over Marryat's novel "Port Admiral." This is from an essay, "Trafalgar Square in History," online. Marryat also attacked (acc. to Neale)