Hey Ron,

Reading down through this thread the state of play at the moment is that you have:

1) Completely shifted ground three times as pointed out by Guest Dickey.

2) You have offered not one single example of what you claim as propaganda. That would support your line of reasoning. The fact that numbers associating Saddam Hussein with 911 reducing during your so-called "highly successful" campaign is a rather telling point against your arguement, that you have completely failed to address.

3) You have admitted that it is the responsibility of whoever holds the office as President of the United States of America, to address security matters in order to protect the citizens of the United States of America and the national interests of the country. Yet you castigate the man for acting on the advice given on those very topics by the Joint House Security Committee and by the combined Intelligence Agencies of the United States of America.

4) You peddle this illusion that Saddam Hussein and Iraq were "boogie-men" created by George W Bush and his administration post-2000 election, when it is a clear matter of record that they were not. Removal of Saddam Hussein and his regime became official US foreign policy in February 1998 (IIRC), warnings about the danger of leaving the Iraq WMD problem unresolved were signalled very clearly in 1998.

Guest Dickey on the other hand has made his points very clearly and backed those points up with hard fact and examples. Guest Dickey is correct, through your arguements and line of reasoning, nobody could ever accuse you of being a rational human being with regard to this topic.