The stuff Doug is saying is fairly common in North American Indian shamanic tradition...as regards the spiritual nature and significance of men and women here in the physical world. It never interfered one bit with men's autonomy and their effectiveness as men in the this physical existence, as can easily be seen by observing what went on with Native Americans back in the frontier times and before.

This world was seen by them as a sort of dream-existence, in which things appear and seem much realer than they are. Eastern religions (Vedanta and Buddhism) also see it that way: they say emphatically that this world is an illusion, a dream, an imagining. Beyond it is an eternal spiritual existence that is vastly realer.

The temporary is seen as unreal. All physical things are temporary. The eternal (Spirit) is seen as the only thing that is real...and it's a single Unity...whereas physical things are apparently separate. Such separation is seen to be another form of illusion. Enlightenment is seen to be the stage where nothing appears separate from oneself any longer.

To theorize about such things is not dangerous in the least, and it does not interfere with one's ability to be effective within the boundaries of this physical life...as has been proven by millions of Native Americans, East Indians, Buddhists, etc...

Therefore, able, I think you are sounding the alarm unnecessarily here. Daylia's getting massage therapy and laser therapy for sore muscles, she is not getting her head shrunk. If she gets to discuss some interesting shamanic stuff with a friend along the way, no big deal.