In an effort to avoid typing even more words than I already did, John, I did not bother to mention specifically about the Artic section of ice, much of which, as you say, is sitting on the ocean. Yes, I know that. I am not ignorant of that fact. I know about the submarines going under it too.

My point was that a great deal of ice is now sitting on land, is sitting above sea level, and that the melting of that ice would necessarily raise sea levels as it ran off in the form of water.

Do we agree on that? If so, we agree...period. It is the ice on Greenland, the South Pole, and a whole lot of other land areas kindly listed by Don Firth which I was alluding to.