*smile*...yes, indeed...they DO use trad BASED material, but 'trad' is way more than the name of the tune. If material is altered enough, it kinda leaves the realm of trad. If I sing "Barbr'y Allen" with a rock 'n roll beat, what IS it? I do know it is not what I want to hear, except as a comedy routine for a special occasion.

Tannahill is 'borderline' in some stuff (--as I say, 10% of what I heard was ok--), and I might be able to find better examples, but as I say I am more careful now.

I have no quarrel with what people listen to, I just want this small island where those of us who don't appreciate much avant-garde can wallow in our narrow little rut (*grin*) without wading thru gratuitous sausage-making of our favorites.