mack/misophist - 06 Feb 07 - 10:40 AM

Re Security Forces: "IIRC, we're the ones who first gave them the plans for the RPG's that have caused so much havoc."

These the things that "we" gave them the plans for:

"The RPG-7 (Ruchnoy Protivotankoviy Granatomet, 'Handheld Anti-Tank Grenade Launcher') 6G3, and its predecessor the RPG-2, are man-portable, shoulder-launched rocket propelled grenade weapons. Its ruggedness, simplicity, low cost and effectiveness have made it the most widely used RPG in the world. Currently around forty countries use the weapon and it is manufactured in a number of variants by nine countries. It is also popular with irregular and guerrilla forces. Numerous recent conflicts with such forces have seen extensive use of the RPG-7, including the Battle of Mogadishu, Second Gulf War, and war in Afghanistan .

The most commonly seen major variations are the RPG-7D paratrooper model (able to be broken into two parts for easier carrying), and the lighter Chinese Type 69 RPG.

The RPG-7 was first delivered to the Soviet Army in 1961 and deployed at a squad level. It replaced the RPG-3, having clearly out-performed the intermediate RPG-4 design during testing. Its original design concept originated with two World War II era weapons: the American Bazooka and the German Panzerfaust. The current model produced by Russia is the RPG-7V2, capable of firing standard and dual HEAT, high explosive/fragmentation, and thermobaric warheads, with a UP-7V sighting device fitted (used in tandem with the standard optical sight) to allow the use of extended range ammunition. The RPG-7D3 is the equivalent paratrooper model. Both the RPG-7V2 and RPG-7D3 were adopted by the Russian Army in 2001."

Still I suppose it depends on which "we" you are talking about.