uhh..Who are you replying to, Ron? All *I* was saying...trying to agree with you and explicate even more... was that it is good to be accurate in what one calls stuff. I am in the US. Are we missing each other's point?

Anyway, I know about Maytag and Anchor Steam...etc...I even had a bottle of beer (Porter) from the New Albion brewery, usually considered to be the first real micro-brewery to start up after WWII.
When I lived in Kansas, prior to 1977, good beer was 'mostly' imported, and almost NEVER got to Kansas. In the mid-70s though, it began to change, and now, as you say Ron, we have amazing choices!