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Thread #97835   Message #1967258
Posted By: Ron Davies
14-Feb-07 - 08:32 AM
Thread Name: BS: Maliki doesn't want more U.S. troops
Subject: RE: BS: Maliki doesn't want more U.S. troops
Dickey--

Remember, Dickey, you are the intellectual giant. I can only guess, based on what I read--primarily in the Wall St. Journal.

But, in contrast to the Bush regime, I try not to pick force as the number one method to solve any problem.

And I ask for evidence before reaching a conclusion. I don't pick the conclusion--then look for evidence that supports it, while rejecting all other evidence--which is the Bush regime's SOP.

And I don't operate on the "axis of evil" premise.

If you think we should "try" in Iraq:

1)   What do you think we've been doing for the past 4 years?
2)   How long do you think US troops, in the current numbers, should stay in Iraq?   "I don't know" is not acceptable as an answer--that would mean an open-ended commitment.
3)   How many more dead American soldiers-- (not to mention "Coalition" and Iraqis)-- is it worth to you?


And if you don't think my scenario is likely, you have an obligation to provide yours--otherwise it will be obvious that you are not worth debating.

And I will draw the proper conclusion.


Re: Iran

There is a difference between observing and devising a conspiracy theory.

All parties can observe that some weapons used in Iraq were very likely made in Iran. It is however a leap to assert, as the Bush regime does, that this is the official policy of the Iranian government.


Does Maliki have complete control over Iraq?. If weapons made in Iraq were found in Turkey, would that be all the proof you would need that attacking Turkey was official Iraq policy?

Kerry, et al. observe; the Bush regime seeks to use the observations as reasons to attack. And I have already told you my view on Hillary.    Her statements are not helping anybody--though she imagines they are helping her.

Furthermore, please tell me why sabre-rattling against Iran will help the Iranian opposition against the current Iranian regime. As an article here has already pointed out, the Iranian government is already under pressure from various discontented groups. But Bush hardline policy--with threats to attack--make it easy for the Iranian regime to make the case that "we have to stick together against the American threat".

If you disagree, please say why--with logic of your own--not absurd red herrings from politicians.