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Thread #96122   Message #1968426
Posted By: Scrump
15-Feb-07 - 07:54 AM
Thread Name: Origins: Tramps and Hawkers
Subject: RE: tramps and hawkers
The first Forth bridge was the rail bridge, the second Forth bridge was the Kincardine bridge, the third Forth bridge was the road bridge, so the new bridge will be the fourth Forth bridge. Seems satisfyingly complete somehow!

Sounds as if the Queensferry Bridge Painting Company will be kept even more busy then :-)

The 'Tramps and Hawkers' tune (also used for 'Flora the Lily of the West' and, earlier, 'Caroline of Edinburgh Town') is used in the version of 'Ponchartrain' of which Planxty and, later, Paul Brady, recorded arrangements.

So you are saying that the tune Paul Brady sings to "Lakes of Ponchartrain" is what you call the "Tramps & Hawkers" tune then.

The tune I would call the "Tramps & Hawkers" tune is the one used by (among others) the Dubliners. It's the same tune Ewan MacColl used for his Radio Ballads song "My Little Son". Do you know this tune, and if so, what would you call it? Is it just another tune used for "Tramps & Hawkers", or do you give it a different name (perhaps associated with a different song)?

Just interested to know. I realise that either tune could be used for any of the songs Ponchartrain, Tramps & Hawkers, Paddy West, etc.