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Thread #98924   Message #1973638
Posted By: Captain Ginger
20-Feb-07 - 09:55 AM
Thread Name: BS: Proof that Bush lied
Subject: RE: BS: Proof that Bush lied
*sigh*
About twelve years ago in this thread (or another very similar thread) it was pointed out that propaganda doesn't come wrapped in paper stamped 'propaganda', and that there are implicit as well as explicit meanings.
Trouble is, that's too bloody subtle for some people here.

Do phrases like Dick Cheney's "Iraq has long-establlished ties with Al Queda" mean anything?
And in the past 12 months we've had the tacit linking of 9/11 and Iraq yet again by Bush: "...imagine a world in which you had a Saddam Hussein who had the capacity to make a weapon of mass destruction, who was paying suiciders to kill innocent life...imagine a world in which Saddam Hussein was there, stirring up even more trouble in a part of a world that had so much resentment and so much hatred that people came and killed 3,000 of our citizens."

Or shall we go farther back? OK, let's go on a tripe down memory lane...

Condoleeza Rice, September 2006: "We know that Zarqawi was running a poisons network in Iraq… There were ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda"

Bush, June 2004: ""The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda,"

Cheney, July 2004: ""He (Saddam Hussein) cultivated ties to terrorist groups." "If we had not acted… the terror network would still enjoy the support and protection of the regime…"

Bush, May 2003, in his "Mission Accomplished" address: "The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 -- and still goes on. That terrible morning, 19 evil men -- the shock troops of a hateful ideology -- gave America and the civilized world a glimpse of their ambitions. They imagined, in the words of one terrorist, that September the 11th would be the "beginning of the end of America." By seeking to turn our cities into killing fields, terrorists and their allies believed that they could destroy this nation's resolve, and force our retreat from the world. They have failed."

Bush, March 2003: "…the use of armed force against Iraq is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001."

And before the invasion...

Cheney, March 2003: "We know he's [Saddam] out trying once again to produce nuclear weapons and we know that he has a long-standing relationship with various terrorist groups, including the al-Qaeda organization."

Rice, March 2003: "And secondly, a very strong link to training al Qaeda in chemical and biological weapons techniques. We know from a detainee that -- the head of training for al Qaeda, that they sought help in developing chemical and biological weapons because they weren't doing very well on their own. They sought it in Iraq. They received the help."

Rice, march 2003: "Now the al Qaeda is an organization that's quite disbursed and -- and quite widespread in its effects, but it clearly has had links to the Iraqis, not to mention Iraqi links to all kinds of other terrorists. And what we do not want is the day when Saddam Hussein decides that he's had enough of dealing with sanctions, enough of dealing with, quote, unquote, "containment," enough of dealing with America, and it's time to end it on his terms, by transferring one of these weapons, just a little vial of something, to a terrorist for blackmail or for worse."

Paul Wolfowitz, February 2003: "And, worst of all, his [Saddam Hussein] connections with terrorists, which go back decades, and which started some 10 years ago with al Qaeda, are growing every day."

Colin Powell, February 2003; "But what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the Al Qaida terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, an associated in collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaida lieutenants."

Bush, January 2003: "[Colin Powell] will also talk about al Qaeda links, links that really do portend a danger for America and for Great Britain, anybody else who loves freedom….
The war on terror includes people who are willing to train and to equip organizations such as al Qaeda…And as I have said repeatedly, Saddam Hussein would like nothing more than to use a terrorist network to attack and to kill and leave no fingerprints behind."

Bush, October 2002: "After September the 11th, we've entered into a new era and a new war. This is a man that we know has had connections with al Qaeda. This is a man who, in my judgment, would like to use al Qaeda as a forward army."

Bush, September 2002: " Al Qaeda hides, Saddam doesn't, but the danger is, is that they work in concert. The danger is, is that al Qaeda becomes an extension of Saddam's madness and his hatred and his capacity to extend weapons of mass destruction around the world…[Y]ou can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror."

Richard Perle, July 2002: "This evidence is very powerful. There is collaboration between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, which means to destroy us. It entails chemical weapons, biological weapons, training in their application. And he's working on nuclear weapons. The message is very clear - we have no time to lose, Saddam must be removed from office. Every day that goes by is a day in which we are exposed to dangers on a far larger scale than the tragedy of September 11."

Is that clear enough, Terry'n'Dickey?