Thanks Kat.... In that case..I have an Antique Ocarina made in metal by Mathieu of Paris in c 1880 on Ebay (UK) at present with a few days to go...item number 280083368694   If anyone is truly interested. There seems to be a lot of interest in it as it has 15 watchers.
I am now learning on an Austrian clay model from c 1900 which has a sweet sound.