Oh, and BTW, sorry George, but I have to agree with the Countess re the four singers you named... I'm due to go see at least one of them (Ian Giles) in his Oxford Waits incarnation in a couple of weeks' time. And I was listening to him singing Christmas songs on a rather nice carols CD at the relevant time of year. So I guess it just boils back down to the "little known to whom" question...