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Thread #82879   Message #1978777
Posted By: Bobert
25-Feb-07 - 09:15 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is Karl Rove a Big Fat Liar???
Subject: RE: BS: Is Karl Rove a Big Fat Liar???
Well, Dickey, if you had read, rather than skimmed my post that quioted the Wsahigton Post article you wouldn't have to ask brought up the two hour meeting but for review:

Fitzgerald asked the question which was based on information that had been provided to him druing the investigative stage... Had it been a meeting that never occured than Libby's defense team would most certainly have objected and the judge most certainly would have sustained the defenses objection...

The polls I am referring to are really a combination of several non-partisan polling organizations that I pay some attention to including the New York Times, the Washington Post and even the network polls... While these organizations do represent the ruling class on the whole, they are at the very least somewhat in the ball part evn if they tend to scew toward the folks in power so when I see them admitting that 60% of the American people thought that the Iraq invasion was a mistake then in my mind I factor in the "corporate/establishment variable" which means that the number is probably somewhat higher... Learned that in "Statistics 201" which dealt alot with polls...

Now to your 2003 poll??? Well, yeah, at the time the American people were being bombarded with super-patriotism and lies so it's no wonder they held the opinions that they held... Even a year later after the Saddam/al-Qaeda connection had been debunked and the nuke lie had been debunked there were still a lot of people who still believed both of those lies...

Why is that??? Well, Hitler put it very well when he noted that people will believe "the big lie" and so the million$ that went into proaganda were well spent...

Bobert