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Thread #99283   Message #1982293
Posted By: Stringsinger
28-Feb-07 - 07:32 PM
Thread Name: BS: Faith-based Initiative to Supreme Court
Subject: RE: BS: Faith-based Initiative to Supreme Court
The major issue at hand here is Bush's attempt to give taxpayer money to faith-based initiatives. I believe that this is wrong as it violates the Separation of Church and State.
it has been shown that many such faith-based organizations discriminate against non-believers but this still isn't the issue. The issue is this, in order to protect a American's right to believe what they want without harming others, the Separation so wisely cited by Jefferson is the wall that protects our "limited representative democratic republic" from theocrats and political crooks. What Annie Laurie and Dan are doing is serving our Democracy in the most fundamental way, protecting both the right to worship or not as we choose.

Atheism, btw, PDQ is the absence of religion, not a religion of itself. This can be shown by the following logic. If the scientific method by major scientists throughout the world could show the existence of god(s), every sensible non-believer would change his/her mind.
I don't believe that many religions would be as magnanimous, however. I don't really like to label myself so the nearest acceptible term for me would be "freethinker". But as an American, I believe that it's my duty to support those who disagree with me and worship through their religion as long as it doesn't enter into the realm of Theocracy.

I find it hard to be mad a churches or synagogues or mosques, temples etc. although I won't attend them as a participant in their beliefs. However, anger has no place in relating to religion since it accomplishes nothing. I will protest at the machinations of the Robertsons, Falwells, Grahams, etc. who insist that they have the right to foist their beliefs on others. I know many people who are good folks who are religious and although I don't think their religion makes them good, I still respect where they are in their beliefs as people.

But the central issue here is extremely important. Roy Moore and others like him have no right to denegrate the meaning of the First Amendment by violating it and tearing down the Wall. America is what it is through diversity and tolerance and this above all is the most important value we have (aside from the nuts that want to take us to war).

I salute Annie Laurie and Dan and I'm one of them.

Frank Hamilton