Pssshhhhh! (rolling my eyes) It doesn't flippin' MATTER who refused what in 1948. I am not into settling old grudges here, Bearded Bruce, or proving who is nastier than whom, I'm into respecting the originally established borders of sovereign nations. Israel officially became a sovereign nation in 1948, was recognized as such by the U.N., and I believe that all sides should recognize those borders, and stick to them.

To do otherwise, to allow anyone to go past those original borders and sieze land, is to encourage whoever happens to be stronger at any given time in history to take land that isn't his by force. And you notice that's what they've all been trying to do ever since?

That cannot be allowed as an acceptable principle if you want enduring peace between nations...or the strong nations will always use that principle to beat up on the weak ones.

It's not okay when Saddam does it. It's not okay when Germany does it. Neither is it okay when Israel or China or anyone else does it. I don't care what their excuse is for doing it, either.