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Thread #75099   Message #1983385
Posted By: Nickhere
01-Mar-07 - 08:05 PM
Thread Name: BS: Who's Next? Iran or Korea?
Subject: RE: BS: Who's Next? Iran or Korea?
Sure thing, Dinavan. Unfortunately many Zionists seem to believe that two wrongs make a right. Since Jews were persecuted by the Nazis, many Zionists seem to think that gives them the right to treat the Palestinians etc., in a similar way. Ok, so not the gas chambers etc., but remember that Jews were subject to hundreds of petty restrictions and harassments by the Third Reich long before the Nazis got as far as gas chambers. Palestinians suffer many similar harassments today - having to have different colour licence plates on the cars, permits to go anywhere, not allowed to go some places at all: places that were often their homes until a short time ago, their property seized, attacks on the person by Israeli Jewish colonists and the Israeli army, death squads etc., etc.,

You'd think suffering such persecution themselves would make people more sensitive to the trauma of others, but the reverse seems to be the case with many zionists. All criticism of Israeli policy is deflected by the smokescreen of accusations of being a nazi / fascist. A lot of people also make the mistake of assuming that being Jewish automatically means being zionist. This is not the case, and there are many Jews around the world uneasy about, or critical of the Israeli government and its policies. There are Jews within Israel who conduct a far more robust debate about the rights and wrongs of their state than is often permitted outside of it. "Haaretz" is an excellent Israeli paper which gives a lot of space to these discussions.

Haaretz

What is interesting is the regularity with which the Palestine / Israel debate (if you want to call it that) crops up on this and other forums, reagrdless of the original thread topic (in this case Iran / N.Korea) - I think it demonstrates people's conscious or unconscious awareness of the critical importance of the Israel - Palestine question and its centrality in finding a peaceful solution to many of the world's current problems. If an amicable and accepatble solution (to both sides, and therein lies the difficulty) were to be found to this question, many of the other turbulences in the region - and thus the rest of the world, thanks to the ripple effect - would subside. This is one of the reasons the topic interests me so much, apart from a sense of indignation at injustice and human rights abuses.