LH, thanks for that.

About the tangibility,I can see that. I thought another reason for those expenditures were to help people be happy or satisfied. Well,maybe.

Getting satisfactory counselling/therapy is a difficult business,and there are no pat answers. You'll have seen from other postings that people can achieve much in the way of improvement,help,development,enlightenment/realisation,release etc.,so such is clearly possible.

The whole area is as unstraightforward as people.

*daylia* dreams CAN be important in Gestalt. Nothing just plain 'is' or 'isn't' important.

in my training,I worked on a dream of my own (in my training,working on yourself is a requirement),which led to a breakthru.

Working on dreams can lead to a-ha experiences,when the client makes unexpected connections,or can just reach ,say. a core issue that has never gone away. Something trivial like that. **grin**.






    Ivor