sorry, Azzizi and everone. I ramble, and I rambled away from where I thought I was heading - as I said, I know nothing about the question being voted on, just meant to comment on the difficult problem of identity - when I started remembering very unpleasant stuff I veered off into moralizing about holier-than-thouers and really wasn't thinking about the actual subject of the thread. From how you and others describe the vote, it certainly does stink of racism at it's worst.

BTW, the first (and until Philadelphia the only) hostile aerial bombing in the continental US took place in Tulsa, which was basically Cherokee HQ. It happened in the 20's, I think, during Tulsa's largest race riot. Some idiot actually bombed the black part of town from an airplane, I believe at the request of the mayor. Sigh. Cherokees are people, and people are horrible to each other. Where can I hand in my resignation from the human race?