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Thread #99577   Message #1989360
Posted By: Teribus
07-Mar-07 - 08:33 AM
Thread Name: BS: A Palestinian State?
Subject: RE: BS: A Palestinian State?
Nickhere,

Your "quotes from various Israeli public figures:

Quote 1:
"David Ben Gurion, Israel's first PM (in 1937 - a FULL 11 years BEFORE 1948 & arab attack) "The Arabs will have to go, but one needs an opportune moment for making it happen, such as war"

Care to provide the context in which this was said or a reference?

The Jewish settlers and the local Jewish population in British Mandated area of the middle east known geographically as Palestine were attacked by the Arab population on the following occasions:
1922 - Grounds for justification, lies deliberately told and spread by Muslim cleric's that Jews had murdered Arabs.
1929 - Repeat of the above
1936 & 1937 - Arab Revolt.

With regard to the Arab Revolt revisit the words of Ben Gurion and you will clearly see what he meant and where the Arabs had to go from.

Quote 2:
"And Golda Meir, another Israeli PM in 1969: "There is no such thing as the Palestinian people...it is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist"

Golda Meir was of course absolutely correct, the term "Palestinian People" was a modern day invention of that great leader "Tosser Arafat". There has never been a country called Palestine, it was a term used to describe a geographical area. The term palestinian people is about as correct in terms of defining a nation as the term west country people in the UK.

Also Nickhere, Arab League leaders told Palestinain Arabs to leave, in order that they could launch indiscriminate attacks on those who remained.

"I would be in favour of McGrath from Harlow's solution - a one-for-all state: a big geographical area that encompasses Jew and Muslim and Arab alike. As long as this state protects the welfare and democratic rights of all its citizens, there should be no need to worry."

Only problem with Nick is that in western democracy the State is deliberately held separate from the religion, that is not always the case in Islam. Counter to what dianavan believes Israel is a secular democracy