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Thread #99577 Message #1990156
Posted By: Stringsinger
07-Mar-07 - 10:08 PM
Thread Name: BS: A Palestinian State?
Subject: RE: BS: A Palestinian State?
Bruce,
"Jordan is not the Palestinian's country"
"If that is the case, please explain what happened in 1921-1923."
What happened obviously is that Britain carved up the territory to their liking regardless of the needs of the people who lived there.
"The British, under the League of Nations, spit off from the Mandate Palestine the designated Jewish Homeland, all territories east of the jordan river ( 76% of the area) and established the Arab Palestinian homeland of Transjordan. All Jewish immigration there was prohibited."
By whom was it prohibited and for what reason? Clear this up please.
"How much of Mandate Palestine do YOU think should be given to the Arabs?"
Enough so that the people who were displaced by the Israeli's can continue to live there as they did before Israel expelled them.
"Should ISRAEL prohibit all Arab immigration, to be fair?"
They have for the most part through expulsion and occupation.
"WHO kept the "Palestinians" in refugee camps from 1948 to 1967, and forced out large parts of their Jewish populations while Israel settled the Jewish refugees from Arab nations as citizens, and gave the Arabs who stayed in Israel in 1948 citizenship?"
Well it wasn't the Palestinians. Israel settled the refugees from Arab nations as second-class citizens. And the reverse was done in Arab nations as well.
"Yet ISRAEL is supposed to take in those who have declared repeatedly that they do not believe that Israel should exist, and have committed acts of violence against the civilian population, both Arab and Jewish, of Israel?"
A lot of this is just rhetoric for effect. Israel needs to accept the Palestinians as being a valid community despite Golda Meir's dismissal of their existence which begins to sound like Holocaust denying. Israel and Palestine need each other. There is no monolithic view on this subject by either Israelis (read Ha'aretz if you think so) or by the Palestinian community. The fact that Native Americans were never recognized the the US government doesn't deny their original rights to the land that the European White Man appropriated.
"After I shoot you, or your children, will you welcome me into your home and make me a co-owner? If not, why should Israel?"
This is a fallacious comparison. This issue goes back many years and much shooting of women and children on both sides have taken place to the point where each is blaming the other and no one is talking about a decent solution to the problem. Bush has tromped on the so-called Road Map. Right now, Israel is militarilly more advanced than the Palestinians and so the balance of shooting and destruction is on the side of the Israelis.