BBruce: "2. The offer BY Israel of a Palestinian state on the West bank is far more than than any other country has done"

I'm not so sure about this one? What kind of Palestinian state did Israel offer and when? Arafat got something of an autonomous zone on the understanding he act as a kind of policeman for the Israelis. 'keeping his people in line' as the phrase used to go in the media after Oslo.
I don't see how Israel could have, in practicality, offered any kind of Palestinian state in the last few decades, given that they have also extensively colonised it and criss-crossed it with roads. What remains are scattered parecls of land more like a collection of reservations than a country. Thanks to this incursion, the West Bank is fragmented, deprived of infrastructure useful to Palestinians (first off they need a decent airport) and whose borders are controlled by the Israeli army. It is difficult to imagine Palestinians accepting 'statehood' on this basis, and indeed difficult to see how it would function in practice. Palestinians would probably insist on Israel removing the settlements from their land, a demand Israelis are unlikely to concede. Looks like deadlock.

"Maybe I can demonstrate that those who state that the Palestinians should get what they want without regard to the rights of the other refugees of the 1948 conflict are being one-sided ( bigoted, incorrect, unfair, etc)"

I think if you look back along the posts a bit, I've already agreed that Jews expelled from Jordan or wherever should be allowed to return if they wish. They should be allowed to return to their homes if possible, and the current occupants relocated or compensated by the government. It'd cost a bit, but it'd be money far better spent on both sides than all the money spent on ways of killing each other. It would go some way to restoring a badly-needed sense of justice to the region.

As for Palestinians "being allowed to return to mandated Jordan" ....

It reminds me of a certain low-cost airline that promises more-or-less to 'fly you DIRECTLY to cities NEAR cities where you want to go!' ;-}

So I get kicked out of my home, or am forced to flee (and whatever Arab leaders might have told Palestinians back in '48, only a fool would hang round to stay in the middle of a war anyway. Wars have always created refugees and displaced persons, and no warnings to leave are needed when the guns arrive). When the dust settles I am allowed back - not to my house, because the people that kicked me out are living in it, but to a house (maybe) in another country with which I had no ties..... ?-[

Wolfgang: "I'm sure I have a lot of things in common with German Neonazis like wiping my ass and brushing my teeth. But if I would agree with them in a major political question like in this instance the right of Germans (based on deeds, of course) to take back much of the Western part of Poland I'd think at least twice about it"

And I'd say, don't let neonazis dictate your thinking to you. So, if neonazis started to clamour loudly in support of Israel (e.g on the basis that it concentrated Jews in a country far away and got them out of Germany) surely you wouldn't do a 90-degree turn and start to say that Israel was a bad thing, because the neonazis were in favour of it?

So I stand over what I said about Bush & the Bible. Just do your thinking independently - if an idea stands on its own merits it doesn't need the support or condemnation of this or that lobby group.