Funny thing about Mbo's hypothesis that Whufflegrumpus being Snuffalufagus' weird folk singing brother. Snuffie actually is a folksinger, or at least the puppeteer who played his front end years ago is a folk singer. I can't remember his name offhand but I remember spending a very enjoyable evening at his Manhattan apartment playing "the old songs". After that, whenever I heard him singing as "The Count". Snuffie, or any of the other characters he played, I remembered that he could happily be singing "Willow Garden", "Banks of the Ohio" or Rosewood Casket" just as well as "THe ALphabet Song", "Don't Count Me Out" etc.Sourdough