The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #100061   Message #2001556
Posted By: Azizi
19-Mar-07 - 08:22 PM
Thread Name: Water Wallflower & Brickwall Waterfall
Subject: Water Wallflower & Brickwall Waterfall
In this recent thread thread.cfm?threadid=99955&messages=18#1998603 a Mudcatter mentioned how he {she?} had introduced the concept of folk songs to a group of Girl Guides and Brownies by asking them to sing the next line that comes after "Wallflowers, wallflowers growing up so high". I'm paraphrasing, but I got the sense that the poster was saying that the group realized that they knew a folk song since they knew that particular Wallflower song.

That comment got my attention since I'm sure that would not have been the response I would have gotten from children who participated in the after-school & the summer groups that I faciliated from
1997-2006. I don't think that any of those children would have known that Wallflower song.

I'm curious about how familiar the Wallflower song is among different populatrions in different nations over different periods of time. For instance, is it more familiar to people of certain ages in the UK than in the USA or Canada or Australia etc?

Btw, this song is listed here in the Digitrad as "Water Water Wallflower 2" {Which leads me to ask where's examle #1?}.

Also, I'm wondering if folks here know the children's rhyme "Brick Wall Waterfall". I'm curious if this rhyme -at least in part-comes from the Wallflower song.

"Brick Wall Waterfall" became widely known due to its being a part of a 2003 American movie "Dickie Roberts, Former Child Star".
See http://imdb.com/title/tt0325258/quotes "Memorable quotes for
Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star (2003)"

I've posted 28 {and counting} different versions of "Brickwall Waterfall" on this page of my website http://www.cocojams.com/taunting_rhymes.htm . Btw, some of these examples come from children who have mentioned that they live in the UK.

I'll start this thread off by posting examples of this song and this rhyme.

Please join in!