Ron, I have to google his name every time I need to use it. Asshole would work, but then people might think I'm talking about Bush and it would get confusing at that point.

LH, I agree that a war over this makes no sense, but what you or I think in that regard means bugger all. Right now the Iranians are making no sense. They have arrested 15 people. If it's an arrest, what are the charges and when is the trial? If it isn't an arrest, what the hell is it? The UK is not at war with Iran and neither is Iraq. The fact the arrested people are in the military but are not at war means they fall outside the Geneva protocols regarding prisoners of war. If that is so then they should be treated as civilians and have to face Iranian criminal law. But you and I both know it's not about law. It is about Iran using 15 people to make a point. Hell, if that had been me making the arrest, I would have taken the captured crew to a police station, charged them with trespassing, called the press, made an issue of it and then asked the jude to give them a sentence of 'time served' and requested that the UK send a boat to take back their people along with a note that read, ". . .and don't friggin' do it again!" But this is not about law or right. It is about Iran pushing a limit. As I said, I think they can get one more week out of it before stuff begins to happen. Do I hope stuff happens? Absolutely not. But please don't propose in this instance that Iran is righteous. Too much militates against that position.