The "I'm rich, so I'm entitled to to rob, but you're poor so you're not entitled to rob back, and anyway, fucking is much too good for the poor" mentality in some on this thread enrages me. Janie, your posts are excellent, for the most part.

Dickey, if you think the Asian kids are innately or through social indoctrination diligent and law abiding, you simply have not done your homework. The UK experience is that the actual immigrant Asians were largely submissive, but there are large portions of second generation Asians in which the kids fight and fight back. Check out Nottingham, Sheffield, large chunks of West London. Plenty of rude Asian boys with microscopic phones and electric blue Scoobies.

Your apparent assumption that there is something innately undisciplined immoral or inferior about the disproportionate numebr of blacks amongst the American poor seems openly racist, and your approval of your father's thefts in the depression while you condemn the claiming of welfare in the new depression created by the US neocons is at best hypocritical.