Dianavan: I agree with your "The key to success is internal motivation which is fed by hopes and dreams." statement. If that is the key then it is a lack of internal motivation which is fed by hopes and dreams that is the cause of poverty. Janie says it is a lack of resources and Bobert says it is Boss Hogg and ricjh folks whith their "stanglehold".

Your statement "If you take away hopes and dreams, you are only motivated by external rewards and you dwell in poverty." Is very true but what I see out of Janie and Bobert is that they cannot suceed no matter what because Boss Hogg, Rich people etc are working against them.

Bobert: "cause stats, when used repeatedly as a debating trick, are bogus" Is that why you brought stats into this thread?
The reports I poseted were from the FDA and the school breakfast and lunch program funding has been increased avery year.
If any of you do not agree with my interpretation of the message Bobert and Janie are sending to the poor, Let me know what their true message is.

Mr Barry: "ask the teachers how's it going," Yes I did ask a teacher and she said they serve free breakfasts and lunches at her school for the poor kids. I asked a parent in another very poor state and she said they serve free breakfast and lunch at her son's school. Who did you ask? When did Bobert or Janie ask anybody about it?

What I have been trying to say here is poor people need "internal motivation which is fed by hopes and dreams." to emerge from poverty. Without that all the resources in the world wont cure the problem. It may treat the symptoms but it does not reduce poverty.

By treating them like a bunch of poor helpless critters you increase their dependancy on welfare.