Dianavan: I agree with your "The key to success is internal motivation which is fed by hopes and dreams." statement. If that is the key then it is a lack of internal motivation which is fed by hopes and dreams that is the cause of poverty. Janie says it is a lack of resources and Bobert says it is Boss Hogg and ricjh folks whith their "stanglehold".


If any of you do not agree with my interpretation of the message Bobert and Janie are sending to the poor, Let me know what their true message is.

My remarks which follow are not addressed to Dickey. They are addressed to the rest of you.

This is the game that Dickey plays.   

Dickey pretends that Bobert and I, and many others who are participating in this thread, are talking to the poor on this thread instead of to him.

Dianavan has made a number of posts to this thread that articulately provide context for her recent statement. Dickey has willfully taken that statement out of context.

Barry has beautifully and compellingly illustrated from his own hard experience that there is an interplay between the internal development and maintenance of hopes and dreams within the individual, and the social context in which the individual is imbedded. Dickey has ignored that.


Dickey is not ignorant. Dickey is not deaf. Dickey is not blind. Dickey is not stupid.

Dickey is stonewalling.

I didn't start from that assumption, but a preponderence of the evidence supports that conclusion.

There is no 'getting to yes' with the likes of Dickey.

Dickey represents that part of the established power structure that KNOWS it is on top and will consciously, willfully, and with all deliberation do everything and anything it must to try to hang onto that power.

Wordsmith, you're damn straight it's a minefield. It is the mindfield laid out to protect the wall.

Janie