Well Barry - theres hypocrisy, and then again there's hypocrisy.

I sort of know where people like you and Diana are coming from . My parents were very very left wing. They thought Kruschev was the hero of the Cuba missile crisis - a model of self restraint, despite the fact that he had enslaved half of of Europe.

Similarly I think you are turning your back on the fact that SOMEONE is paying for all these murders going on in Iraq, and stopping democratic process being set up there. Someone is behind all these terrible things like 9/11 - recruiting young people as Muslim terrorists. And ones attention is immediately grabbed by those who walk the walk and talk the talk.

Its pretty bloddy silly prancing round with a few technical infringements of England and America in war situations that Amnesty has come up with - rather than the truck load of depostions that Amnesty has come up with againg Iran.

if you need it for a sense of identity - fair enough, but jeering at the discomfiture of the English as they watch a group of their young people fall into the hands of people whos records of monstrous cruelty. Well it makes you look just plain weird.