AWG, you prove yourself to be self centered, and apparently don't read for comprehension very well. I never attacked you for defending them. Nor do I consider what you do as defending them. It seems to me you missed the entire point of the first para of my post. Your style is taking away from your stated objective. You have turned me off, and I would bet most of the others. I may not have put perfume and flowers on it, but I gave you a recipe that would keep you out of the cross hairs. I hope you take it, I doubt you will.

Mick, out of this thread.