"When you tell poor prople they can't succeed because of this and that, you are not only limiting them but telling them it is futile to try to get out of poverty."

Dickey can you please site this quote? Where has anyone told poor people they can not succeed. That may be your interpretation but that's, again, not what's been said.

Where has anyone said they were helpless or that welfare is best for them?

Whew, I give up Dickey, you're on the right track with hope & encourgement & that's has been stated here already but it goes much further than just that but I guess you haven't been following what's been said.

Good bye Dickey.

Barry
Barry