I think both of you have excellent ideas on these issues.

AWG, thanks for the clarification; sorry I got a little bit hissy there.

I too have known folks who gamed the welfare system, and I have no respect for them. Nor, I think, do they have much for themselves. I think that deep down, the real origin and well-spring of self-esteem and morale is personal productivity of some kind, no matter what kind.

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