there is no point...Those who simply WANT guns will twist any argument in order to have them. I have never seen so many fallacious 'straw man' arguments in such a sort space....many of them by my friend beardedbruce.

"shall we ban English majors?"...right. cute.

That vague clause in the 2nd amendment was written in a totally different time. The founders never saw an AK-47 or a Glock. (How many would that disturbed fellow been able to shoot with a muzzle-loader?)   
   Whether the founders intended for every citizen to have the right to keep firearms around **AT HOME** or not...which I doubt was the intent, it is time for that clause to be either amended or clarified to specifically state that weapons are to be possessed BY "a well-ordered militia" and issued TO qualified members OF that militia when necessary.

   I note that the smoke had not cleared until a gun advocacy group actually released a statement saying that IF their idea of allowing students to carry concealed weapons had been followed, 'this might have been avoided'. And when the cops rush in and find 27 students with guns, who do they look at?

   I submit- we have tried allowing guns to damn near anyone who asks for them for years now. It's time to try it the other way and SEE if reducing the number of guns AND legal gun owners doesn't also reduce gun violence.

...and for crap's sake...if you are going to advocate for a position, at least TRY to stick to relevant facts!

and bruce...***I can find the Bill of Rights when I need it***....PLEASE deliver us from tedious copy/paste of specious arguments and slanted irrelevancies.