I know, Joanie, it is indeed very easy for national pride to be misplaced and spill over in ugly ways. The same goes for religion, colour, sex, for being right-handed or heterosexual, and so on. It should make none of these things inherently bad, though, only the people that turn them into reasons for criticising others. So let's be wary of such people, not criticise pride in those things. The reverse leads to PC gone mad; like being called a right-winger simply because I agree with the sentiments of a song that some BNP-stooges tried to claim.